Not really sure what would I call the English that I am the most accustomed to, it is a mix of proper English with most common words that most people use in a daily basis. I personally do not think spanglish could be considered a type of English since it is a partially English mixed with Spanish totally inappropriate language practice, but well accustomed to using and hearing it. Based on my personal experience some of us mix Spanish with English to back words that we cannot recall or do not know in English.

Most of us know that there is various accents in different parts of the United States, north south, west coast, east coast etc. In one way or another we still figure a way to communicate and sometimes we still find it hard to do so, but there is English desing to help with these situations. A good example I would say, is of those who work or have worked in call centers that have the opportunity to verbally interact with many people around the nation, telemarketers are trained to speak in the most general proper way for most to understand and also to understand the person on the other end, and these skill can definetely apply to writing as well.

I do not think spanglish makes it easier to learn spanish for me as in my everyday actions do not put me in a place to peak with many people who speak spanglish. Even though there are a lot of people in the army who speak spanish my daily interactions with themm are in english. I believe that if you are forced into a situation that forces you to use a different language than the forst one that you have learned than you are more likely to practice it. For example when I was in Germany I did learn some basic German but now that it has been several years since I have been there I do not remember that much of it.

I agree with you on point number four a reader can not read an accent but I do believe a persons culture gives them different views of things.

That sounds like a very funny scenario from one extreme to the other, it reminds me of a friend and I, he is very fluent speaking and writing English as I am with Spanish and often we find our self’s teaching each other pronunciation and new words, and personally that has helped me by much.

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Also because of the fact that we might not know you by your name, and the picture helps the reader identify the writer.

Great point about the variety of dialects throughout the US. Not to gang up on you, but why do you think a certain dialect is derived from a specific region? In other words, why would people in California say "THE 10", and yet we say I10?

How would you define a "netural" accent?

Regarding your #4, when you say the writer should write in a form as "proper" as possible, do you mean they write what THEY believe is "proper" or what the READER thinks is "proper"?

In regards to you #3, when you say that no one should feel bad for having an accent, I totally back you up 100%. But that's not the way it is. People do sometime get embarrassed for speaking with a certain accent. I think that goes back to the point Grammar Girl states when "lower class" or "African-American" slated English is "looked down" upon. There is that individual sense that when people hear another persons accent, they are "wrong" in their speaking. P.S. This is not necessarily my thoughts on discriminating against people with accents, I'm simply stating what Grammar Girl said in her podcast.

agree with Tess, I wouldnt consider El Paso close to a southern accent, since its more of a spanglish voice around here than a southern accent.

agree with your number 4 Patrick, with how peoples writing is how people get their standard english across on paper than they would speak.

My boss has a very distinct Boston accent and at first it is amusing but now after working with him for a few years I find it to be very annoying to hear not only from him but other people with the same accent. I think this is due to the fact that I am tired of being his go to person but every time I make a decision I almost always predict his response in my head and it does contain his strong accent. Not to say it is not funny when my soldiers imitate him because they are very good at it.

I agree with you on point number three accents are nothing to be ashamed of. Accents do not corrosponde to intelligence. I do feel that they are adaptable

Speaking as a pretentious northerner, "y'all" makes a lot more sense to me than the plural second-person "you."

Isn't every word (English or not) made-up?

It has been my experience through my discouse community that a persons accent generally does not change the meaning of what they are saying. For example a strike in New York, Georgia, and Texas may have different accents the meaning is still ten pins knocked down on the first ball. But what I have notice some of the terms in the discourse community are different like the way a person from New York and a person from Georgia would decribe a lane condition.

Cockney English slaughters the stereotype that a British accent makes someone sound smart.

Shorter: context matters.

I agree to with number four but what if they have to read the essay in front of the other four

Adrian i think the most difficult slang or english to understand is boston they have a weird accent and spanglish makes it hard to learn spanish because when you go visit mexico or like Spain they dont know what spanglish is they only know what proper spanish is

Eduardo she is telling people that proper english does not really exisit. "Proper" english is what a whole bunch of smart people said was correct. Standard english is what everyone understands once they learn enlisgh rather it be your 1st or 100th language, and I would disagree about the accent thing people do have accents everyones is just diffrent.

Adrian to answer that question yes I do think it is a good thing that people are allowed to use there dialect freely in the workplace and at school, but I think there a some situations where standard english should be pushed on people and that would be anytime dealing with someone outside the business such at clients' lawyers etc. and your emails,memos and other written documents should be in standard english as well.

David I think "Proper" spanish would go along the same lines as "Proper"english it really does not exisit there is a Standard spanish that everyone understands that knows spanish.

Miguel she is arguing that Standard english is the most appropriate for any scenario or occasion due to the fact that this english is what everyone understands, her example is the news everyone that watches it can understand it because it is done in standard english not "proper" english.

I also believe ya'll may not be proper english but in my mind growing up around people saying it would be proper to me but I have been trying to change it to you all while talking professionally to others.

agree with everyone with number 3, no one should be ashame of the accent they have, it just makes it more exciting to meet someone that has a different accent that you can and may learn something new from.

deal :)

i agree tess :)

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